Justice Thomas Gets Giddy with Ginni:
Conservative commentator
Ginni Thomas grilled 340 national and world leaders for
The Daily Caller before she asked her husband
Justice Clarence Thomas for an interview. He said yes, with apprehensions, but it resulted in a riveting
35-minute conversation that was by turns funny, intimate and serious—well worth watching.
Yes, there was some “cringe-y stuff”
as colleague Jenna Greene put it in her Daily Dicta column for Litigation Daily. But sometimes cringe-y equals priceless.
One such moment came when Ginni asked the justice to list the blessings of his life at age 69. “Reading is a blessing,” he said, and went on to extol Boswell’s ‘Life of Samuel Johnson,’ a famed biography that dates back to 1791.
Ginni was off-camera, but she must have been rolling her eyes, because he melted into giddy laughter. “I’ll put it on my list, Justice,” Ginni told him. “I’ll lend you my copy,” Thomas laughed.
“As long as you underline it for me,” she said as Thomas almost lost it. “What about Adam Smith’s ‘Wealth of Nations?’” he joshed.
“I have a life to live,” she replied. “God, you make me laugh,” Thomas told her.
Not your average interview with a Supreme Court justice.
The conversation was not all laughs. Ginni asking him several different ways about the hardships and criticisms he has faced through his life. Thomas, who once might have reacted with bitterness, seemed serene in his answers—at peace with his detractors, cherishing his friends, especially his law clerks.
Thomas said he has learned “not to focus on whether you are praised or criticized. It doesn’t matter. What really matters is what you are called to do.”
Ginni asked him what lessons can be learned from being a target of “ritual defamation,” a term that has been used by Alabama Senate nominee
Roy Mooreand other conservatives to describe persistent attacks from those who want to stifle independent views.
Thomas’s calm response: “When you react negatively, you allow them to define you.”
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