SCOTUS Interrupted | 'Bivens' Redux | And: Sotomayor's French



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Tony Mauro
Marcia Coyle
Apr 04, 2018
With the justices off the bench and catching up on their opinion-writing (we hope) we are tackling a problem that vexes justices and advocates alike: the epidemic of interruptions during oral argument. Political scientists who have studied the problem have offered some possible solutions, and we’d welcome feedback from readers on which ones they’d like to see implemented. Also some odds and ends including several SCOTUS stories you may have missed.

Thanks for reading, and your feedback is welcome: tmauro@alm.com and mcoyle@alm.com.
 
What to do About SCOTUS Interruptions?
It is not in the job description, but Chief Justice John Roberts Jr. often finds himself in the role of traffic cop these days.
In a March 20 oral argument, when Justice Sonia Sotomayor interrupted an advocate’s response to a question from Justice Stephen Breyer, Roberts cut her off and said, almost plaintively, “Maybe could we let him finish the answer, please?” A few minutes later, Justice Neil Gorsuch cut off another advocate as he answered a question from Justice Elena Kagan. Roberts interrupted Gorsuch and said to the lawyer, “Maybe you could finish your answer to Justice Kagan's question.”

The research: Supreme Court interruptions have been the subject of empirical research recently, with studies showing that female justices get interrupted more than males, among other findings.

The latest study of Supreme Court interruptions takes a more historical approach, with surprising results. In the latest issue of the Journal of Supreme Court History, three political scientists report that the number of interruptions during oral argument reduced significantly after 1972.

Why? Because that was when then-Chief Justice Warren Burger ordered that the court’s traditional straight bench be cut into three sections and repositioned to create a “wing”-shaped bench so that justices could see and hear each other better.

“By making the structural changes he did to the court’s bench, Burger enhanced collegiality among his brethren,” the authors state. It’s a fascinating historical study showing that seemingly simple structural changes can make a big difference in the way people interact.

But here’s the problem: The plunge in the number of judicial interruptions has clearly not continued into current times. The authors acknowledge as much, citing their own earlier study showing that between 1998 and 2007, justices asked questions or made comments a total average of 129 times per case. By necessity, that number includes a whole lot of interruptions during the mainly hourlong arguments.

Roberts clearly seems exasperated about the interruptions, not to mention the hapless advocates who have to keep up with the verbal barrage.

So why did the “winged bench effect” fly away, and what can be done about it?

We asked two of the authors, Ryan Black of Michigan State University and Ryan Owens of the University of Wisconsin. The third author, Timothy Johnson, teaches at the University of Minnesota.

The “why” question was easy: “One answer is that Justice [Antonin] Scalia redefined the culture of oral argument at the high court. Not only did he change the dynamic of oral argument as soon as he arrived at the court, he also affected the behavior of those who came after him, leading to a hot bench. At the same time, the court exacerbated this effect by taking more and more salient cases.”

Possible remedies: Unlike some academics, Black and Owens were willing to offer solutions to the problems they studied. So here they are:

➤➤ Chief Justice Roberts could try to “clamp down more” on interruptions by justices and be more rigorous about not giving advocates extra time to speak, in the manner of his predecessor and mentor William Rehnquist.
➤➤ Allow advocates to have five minutes of uninterrupted time to speak before the justices pile on.
➤➤ Roberts could institute a “queueing” policy, requiring justices to line up electronically to ask their questions. Whichever justice pressed the button first would have his or her microphone come on first, possibly reducing the number of times when justices speak over each other.
➤➤ Here’s another option, not from the political scientists: Justices could just curb their enthusiasm and let each other—and the advocates—speak their piece.

What do you think? Roberts has extended argument time to be more advocate-friendly. The five-minute allotment could just increase the interruptions during the remaining 25 minutes. And it’s hard to envision tech-wary justices fiddling around with queuing buttons.

Got an idea about how to solve the problem? We'd love to hear feedback: tmauro@alm.com and mcoyle@alm.com. We'll collect some of the responses and plan to share them. 
 
Relisted 9x: What's Happening in the ACLU Abortion Case?

Solicitor General Noel Francisco's November petition suggesting sanctions for alleged unethical conduct by ACLU lawyers who represented a pregnant immigrant teen seeking an abortion has been relisted for the justices' conference nine times and counting—perhaps not a record but inching up there.

While that remains pending, Sidley Austin's Carter Phillips, representing the ACLU in that conflict, informed the justices Tuesday that a federal district judge had issued a preliminary injunction in a related case blocking the Trump administration from interfering with detained pregnant immigrant teens who seek abortions. The judge, Tanya Chutkan, also certified a class of pregnant immigrant minors in federal custody.
The Trump administration's policy "is premised on the notion that the director is entitled to exercise complete control" over the reproductive decisions of the immigrant minors in U.S. custody, Chutkan (at right) wrote. She added: "The adoption and implementation of such a policy is itself sufficient to raise constitutional flags."

The Justice Department on Tuesday asked Chutkan to stay her ruling pending appeal to the D.C. Circuit. "The public interest also weighs against incentivizing illegal immigration by compelling the federal government to facilitate an unaccompanied alien child’s request for an elective abortion," the government said in its court filing.

The ACLU's Brigitte Amiri, counsel to the class, told Supreme Court Brief, "We believe the stay should be denied for reasons already recognized by the court, and It is disturbing that the government continues to asserts the right to tell others about a minors' abortion decision over the minors' objection."
 
A Return Engagement? 'Bivens' and the Cross-Border Shooting Case.
Last June, the justices, in an unsigned opinion with two dissents, sent back to the lower court a case involving the cross-border shooting of a Mexican teenager by a U.S. border patrol officer. The case, Hernandez v. Mesa, is coming back.

The family of 15-year-old Sergio Hernandez had sued the agent, charging that he used excessive force. The teen either was throwing rocks at the patrol agents that June day in 2010, according to Jesus Mesa, or was playing a game of running up the side of a concrete culvert separating the two countries and touching the wall before running back down, according to the family. The boy was shot on the Mexican side of the border.

Instead of addressing the "sensitive" and "far reaching" Fourth Amendment question, the justices sent the case back to the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit. The high court directed the appeals court to consider whether the family could sue based on their 1971 decision in Bivens v. Six Unknown Named Agents. Under that decision, a plaintiff can bring a federal damages suit against federal officials who allegedly violate the individual's constitutional rights.

The justices wanted the Fifth Circuit to look at the Bivens question in light of a decision they had issued a week before the Hernandez ruling—Ziglar v. Abbasi—in which they showed little interest in taking a broad view of who can sue under Bivens. On March 26, the Fifth Circuit, ruling 13-2, said the family could not sue the border agent.

Lawyers close to the case said they expect to file a petition in the high court next month.

► A nearly identical Ninth Circuit case—Rodriguez v. Swartz—was argued before a three-judge panel in October 2016 and then held in abeyance pending the justices' decisions in Hernandez and Abbasi. Supplemental briefing on those decisions was completed last July, but no decision yet.

► The border patrol agent in the Ninth Circuit suit—Lonnie Swartz—is currently on trial for the alleged murder of 16-year-old Jose Rodriguez, shot 10 times in October 2012. The trial is underway in federal district court in Tucson, Arizona. Swartz, charged with second-degree murder, claims self-defense because the teen allegedly was throwing rocks over the 20-foot fence from a street parallel to the border.
 
#AlwaysAScotusAngle
President Donald Trump last week tapped the boutique law firm Consovoy McCarthy Park to represent him in his individual capacity in the emoluments clause challenge in District of Columbia v. Trump. The lawsuit, filed by the attorneys general of Maryland and D.C., is underway in federal district court in Maryland. The suit last month cleared an early hurdle.

William Consovoy is co-director, with partner Thomas McCarthy, of the Supreme Court Clinic and the Administrative Law Clinic at George Mason University Antonin Scalia Law School. The firm boasts three former clerks to Justice Clarence Thomas: Consovoy, partner Patrick Strawbridge, and of counsel Jennifer Mascott, and one former clerk to Justice Samuel Alito Jr.: partner Michael Park.

“Our firm welcomes the opportunity to represent President Trump in his individual capacity in this case, which raises novel and meritless claims about alleged violations of the Foreign and Domestic Emoluments Clauses of the Constitution,” Consovoy said in a statement. “We look forward to vigorously litigating this case and achieving a successful result for the president.”

Consovoy and McCarthy have been to the Supreme Court lectern in recent years. Consovoy argued Spokeo v. Robins and Evenwel v. Abbott in 2015. In 2016, McCarthy argued Birchfield v. North Dakota. 
 
ICYMI: Parlez-vous Français? | As the Special Master Spins
—> Justice Sotomayor dropped some French into one of her dissents this week to emphasize her frustration and displeasure with her colleagues' repeated refusals to hear Florida capital cases.

—> Jay Sekulow, chief counsel to the American Center for Law & Justice, is one of President Donald Trump's lawyers. He is also a regular advocate in the U.S. Supreme Court. On Monday, the justices denied review in his petition seeking to overturn an injunction against his client, Troy Newman, former board member of the anti-abortion Center for Medical Progress. The injunction targeted the release of allegedly doctored videos of conversations with abortion providers.

—> The U.S. Justice Department moved quickly after enactment of the CLOUD Act to seek dismissal of its Supreme Court case against Microsoft. The government issued a new warrant for emails on a Microsoft server in Ireland and told the justices the case they heard in February is moot. Microsoft on Tuesday filed its own motion, agreeing the original case is moot.

—> More than two dozen Big Law firms have filed amicus briefs on behalf of organizations and individuals supporting Hawaii in its legal battle with the Trump Administration over travel ban 3.0, barring foreign nationals from predominantly Muslim countries from entering the United States. The Supreme Court will hear arguments in Trump v. Hawaii on April 25, the last argument day of the term.

—> In an unusual move, the Supreme Court on Monday switched special masters in the original jurisdiction case Texas v. New Mexico and Colorado. The justices replaced A. Gregory Grimsal of Gordon Arata Montgomery Barnett with Senior Judge Michael Melloy of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Eighth Circuit.

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